Audi

2024-06 electrical issues


How to Replace the Idle Air Control Valve video

2024-08-21 seems to be my exact problem and for them it was the j271 relay    
another that may be a bit different but very similar

2024-08-21 mass airflow replacement with good images

2024-08-22 9am I put in the 214 relay from the 97 and the 99 wouldn't start I put the 99 original 214 relay back in and it did start

2024-08-22 10:20 a.m. I now have the spare engine's idle control valve on with the 99's original 214 relay and the 97's mass air flow and it still surging but it's not stalling at least initially because the RPMs are being held around a thousand rather than 600

2024-09-02 712am I should check to see if D2 4.2 has "intake manifold links" that may be part of my problem. this is a D3 thread on them with good pics
this is the thread I was reading that linked to it - see post #9


 

page index:
000 factory service manual .pdfs & VCDS
005 todo
bumper   
brakes - front
brakes - rear   
brake - parking 
colors
Cruise Control   
cup holders
dashboard vents & center console & wood trim removal   
evap canister issue   

electrical
electrical - under hood "ECU Plenum"

factory service manual .pdfs & VCDS
facelift differences   
forums   
front brakes   
fuel filter
jack locations and engine stand setups
keyfob   
misc    
misc repairs
oil change   
parking brake 
parts diagrams    
parts suppliers   
rear brakes   
rear view mirror
factory service manual .pdfs & VCDS
sunroof and sunroof drains and headliner
Tachometer & Oil Light   
todo
transmission
turn signal - front
wheels and tires

 

Audi Diagnostic Trouble Codes table (and convert DTC16000's to P-code P0010s)  local .pdf

many service manual .pdfs for '94     

free online factory service manual   is lousy (pics small and negatives, index sucks) version of alldata which is
free through library:  
go to https://divi.geaugalibrary.net/
click Resources and research to go to https://divi.geaugalibrary.net/resources2/
click AllData From Home  to go to https://my.alldata.com/#/home  [User and Password: Comp1500]
click Repair to go to https://my.alldata.com/repair/#/landingPage
select year, make and model (and engine if prompted)

 wiring diagrams    out of stock CD at walmart     post referencing Bentley manual      maybe can order from here    Audiusa's erWin where can apparently rent manual viewings   
AudiWorld post on repair-manuals.com info and erWin and Bentley
this guy made .pdf of entire manual by hand       this appears to be his (unused since 2013) audiworld profile    i think i found his quatroworld profile too, but that is also dormant since 2013
cd image jewel case front and cd face
more info on manuals and subscriptions and VCDS

Elaswin free download links    has a link "ElsaWin5.2 Free Version (Try this ar you own risk)" that points to https://mega.nz/#F!1A5SWALa!6vLvHydIFvuiHXSwhPW8Hw which seems to at least be about 15gb in size. The instructions are for setting up a VirtualBox environment, maybe so one doesn't need to have an XP machine lying around?

vag-com from ross-tech

Maintenance schedule   local

needed:  cruise switch    mp3 player    garage door wiring    cell phone wiring    

excellent repair descriptions for D2s at Audi Pages   

   
AudiWorld A8 forums        
to see old audiworld pics with links like "http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/31455/escapa8_one_jack_two_wheels_off_the_floor.jpg" click the author's name, then click "Albums" in the right column and start hunting.  By changing "Default" dropdown to "Most recent" at least they are in chronological order
AudiWorld administrator

Quatro World  forums   D2 A8 pages with 13000+ threads

Audizine forums (not many threads)     AudiForums is another that doesn't have a ton of threads

 Audi Bedford Parts       UK ebay seller with tons of A8 parts    Wolf (Used) Auto Parts     FCP EURO new parts   Jim Ellis Audi Parts probably dealer    GermanAutoParts.com

seat memory   

D2 specs   Wikipedia D2 page      Audi models and current engines


rear view mirror

attach and remove rear view mirror in factory service manual
C:\RB\vehicles\audi\000 manuals\charm.li download - reformatted from factory manual\1999 Audi A8 Quattro Sedan (4D2) V8-4.2L (ABZ)\Repair%20and%20Diagnosis\Body%20and%20Frame\Mirrors\Service%20and%20Repair\Removal%20and%20Replacement\Rearview%20Mirror%2C%20Removing%20and%20Installing\index.html


sensor locations


electrical

Service Manual Electrical system _ 01 99.pdf    pfp194    diagram of where components are located     "97-wiring->2 - Fitting locations of control units"
Service Manual Electrical system _ 02 99.pdf pfp164     drawings of the individual relay and fuse carriers "97-wiring->1.1 relay carrier, fuse carrier"
Audi A8L Fuse Location.pdf    pdfp1   "Component Location   No. 802/1"     has similar info, but may not match mine     fuses & relays described starting on pdfp4


electrical - under hood "ECU Plenum"

"connector point electronics box" pic zoomed out with my labels - took me so long to figure out because diagram shows connector 1 in upper right, where in actual vehicle connector 1 is in bottom left
zoomed in "connector point electronics box"

"relay and fuse carrier electronics box plenum chamber" pic zoomed out with my labels - took me so long to figure out because left portion of connector (1, 3, 5, 8) doesn't exist in actual vehicle
zoomed in "relay and fuse carrier electronics box plenum chamber"

J271 pinout pic

section 34 is the engine electrical diagram section for my ABZ engine code in pdfs

transmission electrical diagram location in pdfs
s113 automatic transmission gearbox fuse diagram location in pdfs

s116 injector fuse diagram location in pdfs


000 factory service manual & VCDS

2024-09 I downloaded all the manuals from https://forum.a8parts.co.uk/showthread.php?t=9345 even if they don't apply to my A8s
***** READ THIS *****
find them at C:\RB\vehicles\audi\000 manuals\000 all pdfs
***** READ THIS *****

wiring diagram for 2001 S8 search hdd for "001 wiring diagrams #audi"

2023-03-29 I saw this post on facebook and saw someone who might send it on usb for free
I searched google for elsawin and the first result is a free online version from russia - i clicked the Audi before 2023 link
This link goes directly to my '99 relevant info
at kolhosniki.ru


it appears in 2021 i found this link and perhaps downloaded all the relevant ones for my particular 1999 D2 A8 4.2 Quatro but that is unverified. i came across the links again in 2023 without realing i had already been there.  D2 service manual .pdfs by chapter   aka "D2 Tech dump on A8 Parts Forum"  (found link 2023-01-16 here)

this is the charm.li page for my Audi. It appears to be reformatted content from the kolhosniki.ru link at the top of this section, so use that one instead of this one
I did download the (Download for offline use. Still free!) link and unzipped it to
C:\RB\vehicles\audi\000 manuals\charm.li download - reformatted from factory manual
it has some pages that are not correctly displayed from the "Repair and Diagnosis" link

Bentley publishers 1999 A8 materials

D2 S8 brochure scans

A post I have linked elsewhere on this page reads "...May I assume you looked at Ross Tech Wiki?..." referring to the Ross-Tech website
https://store.ross-tech.com/shop/cat/VCDS/
VCDS = VAG-COM Diagnostic System
post on sales model by VINs input
sticky post on a8parts forum about VCDS and a handful of posts a year in the forum itself i had a google note that i saw it at 12:54AM 2023-01-16

2023-01-17 article on comparison of 2 tools for diagnosing vw group cars' problems with link to 30 min video

As long as it does what the others do, I am going to buy the VCDS® HEX-V2® Enthusiast - USB Interface 3 VIN version (the cheapest one) for $199.00

VAG = VW-Audi Group Cars: VW Audi Seat Skoda

I'm not sure if these manuals at diyrepairmanuals.com are from Audi or not

similarly, is allservicereapirmanuals selling Audi content or their own content

eBahn Bentley Publishers on archive.org
this is the page foo the factory repair manual; it is labelled "Audi A8 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003 S8 2001, 2002, 2003 Repair Manual on DVD-ROM" and the author is listed as "Audi of America, Inc."
though there are links for these as well
Electrical Systems, Heating and Air Conditioning, Body Systems
Transmissions, Suspension, Brakes and Steering
eBahn® License for Audi Transmissions, Suspension, Brakes and Steering
Model Basics


bumper

autofans bumper parts diagram shows it as
4D0807105B "cover for vehicles with headlight washer system"
4D0807105B GRU "primed if necessary paint in color of vehicle"

Best Foreign Auto Salvage & Sales Inc. in Aliquippa
place where kid at tire shop in Cuyahoga Falls bought engine to fit his 99 A8 for $500
couldn't get bumper but has both plastic inner fenders and will sell them for $75ish

denver bumper info at C:\RB\vehicles\audi\000 bumper search\denver


Colors

Color on the window sticker is Pearlescent White Clearcoat. It appears L0B9 on the build sticker is the color code. It is listed as Pearl White on paintref.com
found references on the internet to L[zero]89 and L[letter O]89, so I am not sure which is correct
Dave Sr. at Bainbridge claims it is a zero in the middle. He got the code from Audi.

According to this post, the BV portion of the interior color code N3Q/BV on the '99 means Platinum, which matches the window sticker


Cruise Control

parts from fcpeuro.com

 


dashboard vents & center console & wood trim removal

see
Facelift_S8_A8_wood_trim_removal.pdf
and other docs in
C:\RB\vehicles\audi\ashtray\service manual


forums

Audi D2 facebook group

https://forums.ross-tech.com/index.php

audiworld.com

http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/   2024-09 down

https://forums.quattroworld.com/

audizine    

audifans.net    

2024-10 the d2 forum    found this post with several service manuals but hardly any posts on site


005 todo and fixes

2021-09-10 Phillips
tires 235/60R16
alignment
rear brakes
squeek in right rear suspension is lower control arm bushings
rear axle seals are leaking
numerous oil leaks
large evap leak

trunk lock doesn't open with key    2023-01-16 after seeing this link and putting it on the site today, i tried the key in the trunk lock and it works fine both to lock and unlock the trunk. i could have sworn it didn't work in the past, leaving me concerned that if the battery went dead i wouldn't be able to get in to the trunk to replace it. i shouldn't have been worried all these years.


Misc

Swedish guy who swapped an RS6 engine into D2

Quatoro AWD System history and description

pic of super clean D2 engine bay

 


parts diagrams

C:\RB\vehicles\audi\000 audi_parts_manual #diagram.pdf

 


parts suppliers

to get items from the Traditions Audi group that won't send to the US, try Facebook
Issam Abed in CA or
Dean Smith in Germany   1   2   3
others   2

author of this post Dean Smith kind of offered to help get parts to the U.S.
his post points to autofans parts diagrams and others
oddly, there is an Audi Traditions parts group that has new old stock parts but won't ship to the US. To have a new bumper shipped to Niagara Falls Canda would be
709.67 EUR for the part
378.15 EUR for shipping
1087.82 EUR total

ebay seller Wolf Auto in Wisconsin has a ton of D2 used parts

Audi Parts Unlimited facebook page

in Russell: Vivander German Auto Recycling the guy I spoke to about front bumper and later buying parts car from me was Brett

I think Dave at Bainbridge Auto's go to used parts guys are Interstate Auto in Ravena

Intercity Auto Parts in Walton Hills, near Cuyahoga National Park
recommended by Dave at Smith's
didn't have bumper, but has bought parts from ebay sellers in Latvia and Romania and had good experience.

fcpeuro.com

car-part.com
find it anywhere type service I think
recommended by Dave at Smith's

wirthman auto
columbus salvage yard Aliquippa guy said shows as having one or more D2s that might have the inner fenders
3515 East Main Street, Columbus, OH 43213 614-231-2752 800-433-4364    closed weekends

Best Foreign Auto Salvage & Sales Inc. in Aliquippa
place where kid at tire shop in Cuyahoga Falls bought engine to fit his 99 A8 for $500
couldn't get bumper but has both plastic inner fenders and will sell them for $75ish

denver bumper info at C:\RB\vehicles\audi\000 bumper search\denver


Wheels and Tires

according to a number of posts on the Facebook D2 group, D2s have
57.1mm center hole
5x112 bolt pattern

 


facelift differences

this post on audiword forums
"Pre-facelift (97-99) and "Facelift" (00-03): 2 different cars..
.very different engines. 32V with 2 stage manifold in Pre...40V with 3 stage intake and variable valve timing in the Facelift.
Body/appearance differences
/light location differences...
different interiors/equipment..
different suspension and added body bracing in facelift

1999 technical specs
figure out what this means:
Fully automatic dual zone climate control system with "rest" function (can operate with vehicle shut off) dual sun sensors with active charcoal filter
and
Convenience close feature for windows and sunroof
Electrical front seat belt height adjustment

not sure about the front, but the rear outboard seatbelts have "pyrotechnic pretensioners"
see this article about seatbelt tensioners for reason passenger side on lincoln and land rover suck


keyfob

2023-01-11 p11 of Owner's Manual on replacing batteries. It takes qty 2 of the 1620 size.
"If you cannot lock or unlock your vehicle after you havve changed the batteries, then the system must be re-synchronized. See page 18. "
page 18 states "To synchronize, press one of the buttons on the remote control. Then, within one minute, lock or unlock the door lock. The system is now funcitonal."
It didn't work for me.

I got mine working by following directions from here:
Remote Control Programming (1997 ON)
Procedure
1. Switch Ignition ON and leave key in the ignition.
2. Mechanically lock the vehicle using the Drivers door using a second key
3. Using the remote control press the Unlock button once, and the horn will sound once.
4. Wait 6 seconds and press the unlock button once to activate the coding procedure. The remote control will now be programmed.
Note: When performing programming on additional remotes the procedure is exactly the same, except you press the unlock button 2, 3 or 4 times for different remote.
For example: If programming 2 remotes press the unlock button twice with a 1 second interval between each press, repeat for 3 and 4 remotes.
5. Switch ignition OFF.
6. Remove key from ignition and check for operation.
7. The coding procedure can be repeated up to 4 times for additional remotes.
8. The ignition must be switched OFF between programming each remote control.

this post was also useful:
1. Take the key you DO NOT want to program and put it in the ignition. Turn it one click forward.
2. Close and lock the drivers door with the second key.
3. On the second key (the one in the drivers door) press the 'UNLOCK' button ONCE only. The lights will flash on the car, but the doors will remain locked
4. With the second key still in the drivers door, unlock then lock the door again.
5. Pull the key from the slot and test remote functions.
6. Open drivers door, remove key from ignition.

this post claimed some battery brands won't work; my "Amazon's Choice" brand batteries worked fine.

I haven't tried it, but the first link above indicates:
Remote Control Erasing (1997 ON)
Procedure
1. Switch ignition ON and leave key in the ignition.
2. Mechanically lock the vehicle using the Drivers door using a second key.
3. Press the remote control unlock button 5 times in 1-second intervals.
A short horn will sound.
4. Wait 6 seconds and press the unlock button once to activate memory erase.
5. Switch ignition OFF, all remotes are now tuned in..

this post has more involved techniques that involve the VAG software tool.


 

rear brakes

audipages tutorial     youtube video (actually for front but similar)        Caliper replacement video    


Sunroof and sunroof drains and headliner

service manual toc for sunroof     path: Repair Tips      Body     General Body Assembly, Exterior (Rep. groups 50, 55, 57, 58, 60, 63, 64, 66)     Sliding roof      Sun roof
 

A6 sunroof repair after drained battery moved sunroof too far back found link from this video in this post

 Adjusting height of sun roof panel

  cleaning drains

2023-08 called Land and Sea Upholstry
Adam can repair it, but he is about 2 months out
Land and Sea Upholstery
38005 Apollo Pkwy, Willoughby, OH, United States, Ohio
https://www.facebook.com/LandandSeaUpholstery/
call or text him at 440.364.6162 before running up there

removing headliner prior to removing sunroof
> General Body Assembly, Interior; Repair group 70; Roof trim; Removing moulded headliner
click Page 70-77 link

facebook post showing pics of where sunroof drains are    images: 1   2   3    4
It is behind the bumper - you can only see the outside of it with the bumper off. Spectacularly dumb since they block up so easily. You can get to it from the inside by pulling the boot side carpets in to the centre - the body grommets are just aft of the wheel wells, above the battery / amp trays. You can pull the tube out and blow compressed air through the grommet to blast the schmutz out of it, although bear in mind if the sunroof tray is full of water you'll end up filling up the battery tray or amp when you pull the tube off. I got 2 gallons out of one of mine

thread on cowl drain, evaporator drain and sunroof drain plugged   and another      this happened to me ~2020-12 and I used the audipages technique to clean the cowl drain

 

 


oil change

auidpages tutorial          2006 a8l video   

 


front brakes

audipages tutorial

in ~2017 I put on EBC drilled and slotted rotors - the fronts only lasted about 2 years of use (and ~1 year of sitting idle)

audipages Front Brake Pad Warning Light Troubleshooting
 
Brake Light Sensor thread

misc

Article on the initial design of the A8


misc repairs

Replace a hub and bearing video

audipages Fresh Air Blower Replacement - I originally bookmarked this in 2016, not sure why

super detailed Water Pump Replacement article with many pics - SHOULD DOWNLOAD THIS ONE

thread on cowl drain, evaporator drain and sunroof drain plugged   and another      this happened to me ~2020-12 and I used the audipages technique to clean the cowl drain

removing air vents:  i had this link which no longer has pictures, but post 60 text reads "remove the front driver's side air vent. You need to wedge up the two clips at the bottom of the air vent, you can then us a hook type tool to remove the vent by pulling it forward"
i think i had to do this to take out the center console, radio, etc.

custom trailer hitch

ashtray lightbulb thread 

 


parking brake

parking brake nut:  back off nut (ccw) to make lever go up easier

thread on problem adjusting


cup holders

amazon Smart Kup Car Cup Holder
Cup Holder Adapter - Black     2 pack     another      amazon search   
tucks in beside console

 


headliner

video of entire removal process     part 1      part 2

putting on new material video   

 


jack locations and engine stand setups

audizine post with good pics on ideas on mouting the engine on wood blocks or an engine stand.

Audipages shows these pics in article discussing control arm replacement     pic 1     pic 2

this Audiworld post reads "It's in the manual ... there are rubber pads positioned under the car just inside the factory jack points."   and has this image

this Audiworld post reads "I normally jack up the rear and put the stands under the big round rubber pieces with the bolt going through them in the vertical direction....." with this pic and "And the fronts:" with this pic and "Be careful, I have found that you have to do this in at least two steps to get the jack stands high.....put the whole car up on them on low settings then go around the car and raise each one up again jacking that corner up."  [Oddly, the pic for the front is the same as the second AudiPages image linked above.  Upon investigation, I found both are Paul W.

in this post the author jacks 2007 a6 at jacking points and puts jack stands under engine subframe item 20 in this pic for the front and item 1 in this pic for the rear


VW Phaetons come with tool pictured here, I think A8s have one too

this AudiWorld post 
For the front Front: On the plate where the front sub-frame attaches to the unibody." [Ignore the stand that's to the front of the shot, at the front. I hadn't put in a back jackstand, on that pic.]
For the back: "Round mount at the front side on the wheel well, just inboard of the wheel well"
Another poster for front wrote "under the 4" round steel plates that are directly in towards the motor from the center of the tire and rim. Looks like a motor mount but it isn't, as there are two more in the rear of the car." and for rear "the rear spot is more towards the rear of the car and more directly in from the trailing edge of the rear fender well"

This post is for a D3 and shows for front this pic of putting jack stand on bump of connector between body "the bolt point and the rear subframe mount". For the rear "the center, under that aluminum cross support under the rear diff. Not the diff, but the cross piece "
cap for floor jack so pinch weld isn't crushed

evap canister issue

Purge valve thread

thread showing image of all evap components

see page 90 of "Service Manual Fuel supply system - Petrol engines.pdf" for very simple image

see page 129 of "Service Manual Motronic Injection and Ignition System (8-cylinder AQG, AQF, AQH, ARU, AKC, AUW, (1).pdf" for "Checking activated charcoal filter system solenoid valve 1 -N80" electrically

quattroworld thread with VERY similar issues to mine


Fuel Filter

decent video on where it is, tips, etc. 17mm 19mm

 

 


Tachometer & Oil Light

2024-06-2x took it to Smith's and problem this time was the left valve cover (i think ) leaking oil onto electrical connector on side of transmission
Dave confirmed there is oil pressure but couldn't clean the connector enough to get tachometer off and oil pressure indicator off
I drove about an hour on the highway and the tach started bumping up on occasion and kept getting better for the next hour, then seemed fine
there is still an issue with rpm surging that seems unrelated, next to try putting original idle control valve with a gasket (after swapping during troubleshooting with '97 a couple weeks ago)

This post describes the tach & oil light issue's exact pins on a the older S2 / RS2 models. It also describes the sunroof drains

This post describes the tach & oil light on an A4. Mentions bad engine speed sensor theory for oil pressure light and similar symptoms for bad ground wire on coil pack

2022-12 problem was breather hose leaking

Rev counter not working - AudiWorld Forums

Flashing oil light and rev counter not working.... - AudiWorld Forums

oil warning light

audizine post with my exact symptoms

and another from audiworld in 5000 series where someone suggest bad electrical connenctor    

another post looking for an original post on the issue where someone suggests it may be electrical connection under passenger side floor   (I think the ECU is there.)

audiforums similar issue to mine in A4 

another where someone suggest bad instrument cluster   

 audiworld A4 post where someone suggests speed sensor

audiworld post where some suggests cam sensor or crank trigger


transmission

changing filter and fluid video

audiworld post on hunting issue related to torque converter   and another similar one here

tozo I think is the guy in Chicago that is supposed to be really good with D2 transmissions.


turn signal - front

link here

local .jpg

 


 

last updated:    Sun 2024-11-10 11:06 AM